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Christians Being Cajoled into Performing "Obligatory" Service

Pharoah, Let My People Go, That They May serve Me, Thus Saith the Lord-Exodus 9:1

Daniel 1:1-5 and 3:1-7,12, 16-18,23-26, 7:21,22,25,26, 8:12,23-25, 11:16,20-24,27,28,32-39,45, 12:1-4,9-13

(Fulfilled prophecies are still examples of what has happened, is happening and will happen, sometimes as smaller versions. Howbeit there are also still some major prophecies yet to unfold-I Corinthians 10:11)

If You Don't Think So, Read History and the News, and Observe What is Going On Around You


                                                                          AIDING GOVERNMENT

Do we, as Christian believers, have to aid governmental authorities in combatting crime, or are we obligated to? For many years now, organizations such as the CIA have used, and/or attempted to use, Christian missionaries overseas as informants on certain elements of the indogeneous population. For quite a few years now, the tactic has been popular in the USA, with state and local authorities resorting to that as well, in a covert and insidious manner.

First let's mention the constitutionality of being forced, pressured, threatened or coerced into aiding authorities, then to the bible.

The last part of the fifth Amendment states that “[no person] deprived of life, liberty or property, without due process of law”. Certainly, being directed as to how one will use their time is depriving one of liberty. I stress that as far as I know, it is done in a covert manner, rather than straight forwardly.

Section one of the thirteenth Amendment states that “Neither slavery nor involuntary servitude, except as a punishment for crime whereof the party shall have been duly convicted, shall exist within the United states, or any place subject to their jurisdiction”. Further, part of the sixth Amendment states that “ In all criminal prosecutions, the accused informed of the nature and cause of the accusation; to be confronted with the witnesses against him; to have compulsory process for obtaining witnesses in his favor, and to have the assistance of counsel for his defence”.

They get around this by setting the stage for target victims to seem to have no choice but to start making reports to authorities. I have seen this orchestrated by city, county and state police, CIA, FBI, US Marshall, private investigators, the modern, stateside version of the SOG, and other entities of the US Government. The mediums they use are informants, government offices that are not investigative/law enforcement agencies, civilian industrial and service companies and even church congregation members.

The Constitution is clear on this matter. If you look up the definition of the words involuntary servitude, you will find that working as an informant, is in that category. The law is clear that such a thing cannot rightfully be done unless the person has been charged with a crime, and given the chance to aid authorities. What often happens is that, once a person becomes an informant, authorities destroy or hinder any chances of that person quitting and obtaining gainful employ. Something else that often happens is that in the course of their duties, they are required to do illegal things, which gives authorities a way to keep them immersed in their service. Now how about when aiding police is against one's faith?

The first Amendment states, “Congress shall make no law respecting an establishment of religion, or prohibiting the free exercise thereof...”. This is very clear as well. So what scripture would forbid believers to engage in aiding authorities against their will?

One very simple one is “do unto others as you would have done unto you” [Matthew 7:12, Deuteronomy 15:7-18]. Most people do not like making reports to the government about people, and unless it is absolutely necessary, it's a bad example [I Thessalonians 5:22], and it often makes the person making the report look bad, especially if the person making the report is a church member and the issue of the report is not of a serious nature.

Keep in mind that it is illegal, under the first Amendment, for any governmental entity to use a platform of any religion to engage in their duties. The Constitution was established on primarily Judaeo principles, that is, the Mosetical Law, which is sound and anything different is potentially anarchist and is heathenish. Even King Hamurabi, a pagan ruler, had moral laws for Babylon, a pagan nation.

Authorities in Jerusalem, who were Pharisees and also partly controlled parts of the Roman government, had forbidden the apostles to preach and to teach in the name of Jesus. They even beat Peter and John. The apostles' answer to the Pharisees was concise and simple, “We ought to obey God rather than men” [Acts 5:29]. The word ought here means to be bound by duty or moral obligation, a must do. It is a definitive word, substantiated by the fact that an angel of god commanded them to preach Christ right then and there.

The word ought, is originally from the Greek language [dei], and means 'one must'. The translators made a grave error when translating from Greek to English. They should have used the word 'must'. That is what it means, and so is not an option.

Of course we are to obey rulers, authorities and laws, and we'll look into that part as well. The Pharisees were technically the overseers of the Jews, concerning Judaism, but even so, the commandments of God and of Christ overrule any orders from mortal men, touched on by Peter the first time they had been arrested [Acts 4:18,19].

Peter tells us to submit to every ordinance of man's authority [I Peter 2:13-15], meaning laws and regulations. The hidden meaning lies in the fact that all authority is given of God, and so we are to obey any law or rule which is not contrary to God's laws and commandments, which of course includes the commandments of Jesus Christ [Romans 13:1-7]. Since all authority comes from God, or is allowed of God, any law, rule or order that is contrary to God and Jesus, is not required by God Almighty to be obeyed. God is not divided [I Corinthians 1:13] nor does He change [Hebrews 13:8, James 1:17].

The word ordinance is from the Greek 'diatage', meaning something appointed or ordained. It is based upon the Mosetical law, those laws all pointing to Christ, not new laws. It is made clear in places such as Galatians 3:2,3,10-14,17-19,21-25, Hebrews 2:1-3,8, 10:26,29 and John 14:15 that the Gospel overrides the letter and bondage of the law of Moses [which is where our secular laws come from, Romans ch. 6-8], though not making the moral commandments null and void [Jeremiah 31:31-33, Romans 2:15].

Romans 13:4 calls rulers, which refers to various levels of government, ministers. Does that mean a minister such as a pastor, which means that they are looking out for our souls? The Hebrew word is diakonos, meaning servant, waiter or administrator. The Greek word means, properly, “raise dust by hastening”, one who executes the commands of another. An errand runner, simply, one who does the bidding of another. In that case it means those who do the bidding of the secular law, which is an operation of God. It is an ordination, but not an anointing.

Romans 13:1-14 I Peter 2:13-25 describes what believer's relationship is toward the secular government and employers. These verses also show the distinction between the secular government and God's spiritual government, and the role that we, as believers, are to assume.

Submit [hupeiko] means to retire, withdraw, as in withdrawing from a battle, as in retreat, not being defeated, but rather going about the battle in a way other than the means by which an assault is made upon us [Zechariah 4:6]. This ties in with Matthew 5:39. This verse is not saying to let someone beat you to a pulp or to shrivel up and give in to evil. It means to accept insult and refuse challenges as such. As Christ, when He knew that debating, or saying anything, would be of no use, He kept quiet, knowing that God was going to deliver Him [Mark 15:1-11, Hebrews 2:14]. In any given situation, it is the Holy Ghost that we should let determine whether or not we say or do anything [Luke 12:11,12, Matthew 10:16-20].

To expound on submit, or as it could be defined, retreat. When a military leader retreats, he is getting away from the battle in order to revamp his plan, to rethink his strategy [II Timothy 2:3,4]. He is not going along with the opponent's wishes nor thinking that all is lost [Romans 12:2,3, II Corinthians 4:8-18]. There are times that God will deliver us physically [Luke 4:28-30, Acts 12:1-11, Acts 16:19-40]. There also comes a time when he will not [John 21:18,19, II Timothy 4:6-8], and we have to gracefully accept that.

We are to be subject to the higher powers. Subject [hupotasso] means to rank under. It does not mean nor imply that we are to be treated with contempt or as a slave. Sometimes it happens in America, I think usually it does not, though it does happen commonly in a spiritual manner. Again, Christ out ranks all others, and when he wants us to say or do something, a way will be made [Matthew 6:13, I Corinthians 10:13]. Otherwise, we have to learn to accept suffering for His name [James 5:10-12, I Peter 2:19-25].

God ordains all powers. In Romans 13:1 ordain [tasso] means 'to place in order, arrange, as in civil and military authority. This seems to suggest that there are different ordinations and powers of God. Are there, or is everything now under the direct workings of the Holy Spirit in our times?

In I Corinthians 12:6-11 we see that there are a variety of spiritual gifts by the same Spirit; different types of

ministries [diakonia], pertaining to the church; different operations [energema-what is wrought], but one God who works things. Verses 6 and 7 make a clear distinction between certain workings of God Himself, and the workings of the Holy Ghost. The contrast, or distinction, is not always readily apparent, but I think the example of Cornelius should suffice [Luke 7:2-10, Acts 10:1-8].

Cornelius was a military officer, who also believed in Christ. He had a good amount of authority due to his duty to Rome, and he understood it. He also recognized and understood a completely separate and higher authority, which Jesus Christ possessed. Though having authority by Rome, he submitted to the authority of the Holy Spirit, abusing neither nor usurping either by the other [II Peter 2:20-22, II Corinthians 3:17, 4:2, I Peter 2:16, Romans 13:8-14]. Those in authority are obliged to not abuse their authority, especially the Christian ones [Ephesians 6:9, Colossians 4:1], and believers not in secular authority are to not abuse their liberty in Christ [Ephesians 6:1-8].

Even under the strictness of the Mosetical law in the old testament [Romans 7:11, II Corinthians 3:6], there was a distinct separation of church and "state" [secular type government]. Moses appointed secular type of rulers to judge and rule over the people, and to teach them ordinances and laws [Exodus 18:7-27]. Yet later, the Lord instituted the old testament church [Exodus 23:20-25, chapters 25-27], and had Moses appoint priests to do the ministry work [Exodus 28:1. It is clearly two separate entities. The Lord also makes it clear that His voice is to be obeyed over all else [Exodus 23:20-25]. This all carries over into the new testament, as to function [Matthew 5:17-20, Hebrews 10:1].

Every government worker is subject to someone, and the highest office in America is subject to the congress and the senate. Everyone in government is subject to the Constitution of the United States of America, or is supposed to be, rightly. And a nation is not a church, so God rules over all.Even in a country where communism reigns, and especially so, Christians are not to be subject to orders, laws, rules or regulations that are contrary to God's Word, though it is often at the believer's physical peril to obey God. God has the final say.

Some people in government entities do not care about Christianity, though others will usually not use a Christian believer in any capacity which may offend the precepts of the faith. The biggest problem there is, that much of the church has compromised, which has allowed the antiChrist spirit to run many of the congregations, so a lot of people no longer know the difference.

If merging of church and state is not stopped (not to the exclusion of Biblical commandments as a foundation for law and government), it will be chaos [Deuteronomy 28:1-15,20,22,25,28-30,32-37,43,45...58...66, Jeremiah 31:31-33 > Deuteronomy 28:58-61 > Revelation 22:18,19, 14:12, Deuteronomy 6:5, 27:10].

A good supplement to this article is entitled 'Angel of Light-Christian Informants..'.

"...abhor judgement...pervert all equity...judge for reward...teach for hire...divine for money...and say, Is not the Lord among us? No evil can come upon plowed as a field...become heaps...", Micah 3:9-12, Isaiah 29:8-16,18-21, II Thess. 2:6-12.

A corrupt law enforcement entity plays a major role in disrupting and overthrowing an entire nation. This is evident in the history of Germany, Vietnam, Iraq and many other nations. There are two keys to part of this: old Babylon will never be rebuilt [Isaiah 13:19,20], and; and it appears that America fits the description of spiritual Babylon, and none other:

Here is an excellent sermon on apostasy by the late David Wilkerson:

A prophecy from God through David Wilkerson, in 1973, describing things which most people wouldn't have imagined could happen in America: